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We Can Guess How She’ll Respond to Our Boundary. Should We Stick With It Anyway?

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Kkimmons and her husband have just made a tough decision: they’ve barred their 19-year-old daughter from using the family car for work, knowing that she’s using the cash she earns to buy heroin. The daughter is pushing back, saying that she’s not yet ready for treatment and will not succeed until she is. Should they give in a little, they wonder, or hold fast to their boundary? Laurie MacDougall notes that they alone must decide. But she also asks a vital question: what conditions create the best motivation for change?

After a very hard weekend, we told our 19-year-old daughter that we would support her in getting help, but we couldn’t support her by letting her use our car to DoorDash, since she is using that money to buy heroin and bringing it in our house. She said that we were forcing her to go to rehab and that she just isn’t ready yet, although she’s getting closer to agreeing to go. And that if she’s forced, it will just be the same as last time, where she started using again once she got out (she did 12 days in rehab and was asked to leave for sneaking pot into the facility).

This was a new boundary that I set because she got verbally and physically abusive on Friday (she was starting to have symptoms of withdrawals and I wouldn’t give her money), went into withdrawals on Friday night after taking her first dose of Suboxone and we went to the ER, and then we found heroin in her room on Saturday night.

So, my question is, do I stick with this boundary, knowing that if she doesn’t have money, she will go through withdrawals and may go to rehab just to medically detox? Or do I allow her to use the car to DoorDash some, knowing that she’ll use the money to buy drugs, and hope that we can continue to have rehabs ready to show her when she is actually ready to go on her own?

Hi Kkimmons,

It sounds like Mom and Dad have been putting in the work to learn CRAFT skills. Kudos to you both! This is just a testament to how much you love her, and she may not believe it yet, but she is blessed to have you as parents. I love that you are setting a boundary and tackling a tough one.

Those boundaries basics

Let me outline a few things that might help you in your process, especially around the question of setting a boundary:

  1. Boundaries are yours, so they are your responsibility to manage.
  2. Boundaries determine your behavior, not your Loved One’s.
  3. Your Loved One’s possible behavior as a result of the boundary should not determine whether to set the boundary or not.
  4. Set boundaries that you can follow through on, with consequences you can manage.
  5. Don’t set a boundary if you don’t think you can manage it (take your own sanity into account) or if it’s not safe for all involved. Safety first.

Various things can be difficult to anticipate when creating and setting boundaries, but one thing we should expect is that our Loved One will push back. This is tough. We don’t know what form the pushback may take. In your case, it sounds like your daughter is trying to get you to loosen the circumstances under which she can use your car. She wants to DoorDash and make some money.

How about trying to hold to your boundary and use what was outlined above as a guide? Let’s lay out what this might look like:

  1. Safety and sanity: When she has access to cash, she usually buys more heroin and uses. She also might use the car to go and purchase her drugs and use them. She might even use and drive. All unsafe situations.
  2. Control over the car: As she pointed out, you cannot force her to stop using. You know you don’t have control over her (I’m sure everyone tells you this), but one thing you do have control over is use of the car. You have just decided how the car can be used. You are controlling what you can, and making a difference where you can.
  3. Statement to your daughter: She claims that you are trying to force her into treatment by limiting her use of the car. While you may wish she would go into treatment, remember that this is not about controlling her. It’s more about setting safe and reasonable conditions. You might say to her, “I know I can’t control whether you use or not, and I know I cannot force you into treatment. All I can do is let you know the circumstances under which I would feel comfortable letting you use the car. If you attend an Intensive Outpatient Treatment and complete the program and find a long-term therapist, then we would be willing to talk about the use of the car.”

Turning the conversation away from being punitive to incentivizing the use of the car can give her motivation to take steps towards her own hopes and wishes. What would you think about letting her use the car if she got another job that had direct deposit? An open and genuine discussion, letting her know your concerns for her safety, is your focus.

Families often struggle to take this stance because they worry their Loved One will continue to use regardless. And yes, that is a real possibility with substance use disorder (SUD). When I have had to face these fears, I’ve asked myself questions like, “Am I prepared to face what might happen?” and/or, “Is my Loved One already on a path and going to use no matter what I do?” This is where my own sanity comes into consideration and your sanity is important. If you do not feel you can follow through on this boundary because of your own worry and angst, then this might not be the boundary for you. I would encourage you to look for a more “baby step” boundary. Something you know you can follow through on.

How does lasting change begin?

I also would like to address the topic of “readiness.” Here’s a question to ponder: when are people motivated to change? Is it when they are comfortable with the status quo? Or is it when they are uncomfortable in their situation, or when there is some kind of better reward on the other side of change?

Research and experience show that when people are comfortable in a situation and count on it staying the same, there is no motivation to change anything. Motivation for change occurs when something becomes painful or disrupts life, and/or there’s something better to reach for.

With that in mind, here are some questions to consider: do you think her trying to convince you to give her the car and let her DoorDash is an expression of her discomfort? Isn’t the goal to have our LOs eventually learn how to deal with their own discomfort? Doesn’t it make sense that she might try anything to get you to restore a situation she was comfortable with? Is it reasonable to expect her to cope with her feelings right off the bat, or is this going to take some time and consistency?

Discomfort and positive anticipation

Her feeling of readiness in this moment is not your only data point. There are two powerful factors that contribute to a person’s motivation to change. It’s a combination of (1) when her using becomes difficult and disrupts her ability to live her life and (2) the lure of something rewarding to her. Taken together, these factors can provide real motivation to change.

Her pleading to use the car is a sign that her substance use is becoming difficult for her and disrupting her ability to live life as she wishes. Now is the time to try to identify positive incentives, to show her the payoff (use of the car, and perhaps more than just that) if she engages in some sort of activity that helps her improve on her health and wellness, such as a treatment program and counseling. Again, you cannot force her, and she might not take you up on it right away. But you’ll be planting a seed, getting her to think about better possibilities. This is exactly the strategy outlined in Allies’ Modules 5 and 6.

Better communication is a skill worth learning

All of this is incredibly difficult to do, and often quite painful for all parties involved. It’s essential, therefore, to get the balance right: use the communication strategies in Module 4 to express what you are willing and unwilling to do in a compassionate and caring way, while still sticking to your values. One point I would like to stress from this communication-focused module is to keep it short and specific. This will help cut down on the arguing. It also makes things easily managed and measurable. It might sound something like this:

“Dad and I have decided that the car is not to be used for DoorDashing. If you find another job, we are more than willing to drive you to it, or we can consider the use of the car.”

She may argue, or try to get you to explain why. You can reply with something simple:

“I know it’s our worry and anxiety, but we are uncomfortable with the access to cash. I know you’re feeling unhappy about this. Nevertheless, this is the decision that Dad and I have made.”

Keeping it short reduces the amount of arguing she can engage in—you’re just giving her fewer openings. It’s a good idea to keep a list of words or phrases handy that might help you stick to the boundary: “Regardless, Dad and I have decided… Nevertheless, this is what we’re comfortable with…We’ve decided to stick to what we’re comfortable with.”

As for the IOP treatment, she may claim that it will be just like last time, and maybe it will. But you can be clear that she has to complete the IOP and be seeing a counselor long-term to get the use of the car back. Bringing pot into treatment and only completing 12 days is not enough. It’s up to her to do it, and up to you to stick to the boundary.

Of course, all the things I’ve outlined here are just suggestions. I am not able to tell you whether you should stick to your boundary or not (though again, it’s best to set a boundary you foresee being able to stick to). I can give examples, share experiences, and show some guidelines to consider. But what will work best is for you to determine. You are the experts in your situation, and only you know all the details you have to consider in order to use your CRAFT skills.

But also, please remember that you are always welcome in the Allies in Recovery community, and that we are here to support you in any way we can. Just reach out—with more questions, or for the many other resources on this site.

Wishing you and your family strength and success as you navigate this journey toward a healthier and more harmonious future.

Laurie MacDougall

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Your Loved One’s journey is in their hands. But CRAFT skills can make your vital support most effective. Renee’s son has been struggling with substance use for 15 years. He’s fighting hard for his own recovery, and that includes rebuilding his career. But lately, he appears to be slipping. For his parents, and for Allies writer Laurie MacDougall, this is something of an alarm bell. The good news is that Renee’s there to support him—and reaching out to Allies for the skills and support to do so.

“We Are Absolutely the Worst People” in Her Life: When Mental Illness, SUD, and Blame Collide 

Your CRAFT skills may be put to the test, but they’re still indispensable. Perhaps more than ever. At Allies in Recovery, we’re always impressed by the mutual support our members give each other—and wherever possible, we try to build on it. At the heart of this post is a conversation about how to take care of your emotions while staying connected with your Loved One (LO). It leads to a stark question many of us coping with SUD grapple with: how do you support a Loved One who blames, rages, and is verbally out of control? Laurie MacDougall tackles this vital, thorny issue. 

Does This Level of Violence Rule Out CRAFT?

Nohp’s husband of 48 years is struggling with heavy alcohol use. Recently his behavior has become more alarming, and even violent. Now she’s staying outside their home, and wondering if that violence means the CRAFT approach isn’t right for their circumstances. Allies CEO Dominique Simon-Levine thinks it probably is. While underscoring that no one can decide for her, she advises Nohp to explore the skills training and support resources offered through Allies in Recovery. Quite simply, they work, and have a track record to prove it.

Please Help Me Improve What I Say to Her

Words matter so much — both the ones we speak or write, and the one we choose not to. Fletcher921’s daughter uses meth and opioids, and was recently suspended from her job. She showed her mother the suspension letter from her employer — an act of real trust. Her mother put effort and heart into her reply, but wants to do even better next time. Allies’ Laurie MacDougall reflects on how CRAFT could help in this effort, and the possible benefits for daughter and mother alike.

Don’t Give Up Too Soon On Medication-Assisted Treatment

Elaine’s son is struggling to quit opioids, but the path is hard. He’s had many rounds of detox, and is now trying to self-medicate. An initial attempt at Suboxone treatment made him feel emotionless and flat. But did it have to be that way? Allies’ CEO Dominique Simon-Levine reviews the challenges and great promise of Medication-Assisted Treatment (MAT). MAT therapies often come with a period of adjustment for our Loved One’s.

It Feels Like Nothing Works With Him

If we focus on what’s ours to control, change is possible all the same. CRAFT skills can help you get there. Elaine’s son is back in the hospital, in a routine that’s become all too familiar to his parents. They’ve tried to help in many ways, but the health crises and the drug use that leads to them don’t seem to be changing, and Elaine’s begun to doubt they ever will. Laurie MacDougall gently challenges this idea. While a Loved One’s life isn’t ours to change, our own words, feelings, and behavior are. Allies in Recovery is committed to helping us learn to take control of these, and thereby give our Loved Ones the most effective support we can.

Do I Want to Have Children With Him?

There’s nothing simple about such a question. But here are some pointers in the search for answers. Whits wants children and loves her partner. But is she prepared to raise children with someone who’s progress with his SUD is uncertain? No one, of course, can answer that for her. But if there is a way forward together, it will require compassionate communication, as well as boundaries and self-care. That’s where the CRAFT approach can be so powerfully helpful.

The Discussion Blog on the Allies Website: Excerpts From One Member’s Journey

An important component of any member’s successful journey on the Allies website is participation in the expertly-moderated Discussion Blog. There, CRAFT/AIR trained staff interact with members by answering questions in both regular replies and in full, expert blog response posts offering guidance that any member can access. Members see other members sharing questions, frustrations, and successes similar to theirs, and also they often see how the Learning Modules are effectively used as referenced by our team experts and by members. We also offer dozens of supplementary podcasts by members of our Allied Team, discussing real situations with Loved Ones and using the CRAFT approach.

A Message from Founder, Dominique Simon-Levine

Founder & CEO, Dominique Simon-Levine, offers an update about the Allies in Recovery program, including new offerings and activities. Thank you all for being so patient as we navigated through the many hassles and challenges associated with developing and building our new website. We are so very grateful for YOU! (Pictured Left to Right: Nicole Castillo, Andrew Maxwell, Deborah Rodriguez, Sandra Munier)

You Don’t Have to Live in Manhattan to Access Recovery Services

And if AA isn’t what your Loved One’s after, there are usually alternatives
Kspring has been supporting her son on his recovery journey for years.
He’s come a long way, but the challenges still feel immense, and Kspring
is actively seeking new recovery resources that could offer a hand. Allies’
Laurie MacDougall did some digging. What she found underscores just
how much is out there—much of it independent of Zip code.

Learning Our Way Out of the Cycle of Recurrence

Even when a lot’s going right in our lives, the recovery process can be tough and painful. Outwardly, Bimba’s son’s life seems wonderful: good job, good relationship, education, financial security. Still, he only manages to remain abstinent for about 90 days at a time. While this stage of the recovery process is often brutal, there are resources and people ready to help. Sustained reinforcement —“getting the message about recovery”— is a vital piece of the puzzle.

She Really Is Making Progress. But There Are Days I Can’t Feel It.

We can’t resolve everything for our Loved Ones. That’s where reflective listening comes in.
Mgmcrosby’s daughter has multiple challenges, from substance use and problematic
relationships to depression and possible bipolar disorder. It’s no wonder that standing
beside her can sometimes be an overwhelming challenge. Reflective listening, one of
many CRAFT skills taught by Allies, can ease the burden.

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  1. Boundaries vs Rules vs consequences. It has taken me some time to sort those out. Especially the difference between a boundary (for me) and a rule (for him). One of the boundaries I have set that I won’t go out with him if he has been drinking. I have learned to stick to that, which is important, don’t set boundaries you can’t stick to yourself. So a few weeks at we had concert tickets for a local show. When I got home from work he was drunk. He went to “nap” so I could wake him when it was time to go. I didn’t, I made myself some dinner, watched some “me” tv shows and went to bed early. He woke up and was surprised I would have wasted those tickets.
    So he has made an effort to stay sober on the weekends. Yesterday we had a nice morning and stopped at our favorite sushi place for lunch. He went to the restroom after we ordered our food, he often has digestive issues. The food came before he got back but all was good. Later in the afternoon I worked on our bills and banking as I usually do and noticed a separate charge on his CC for the sushi restaurant. He confessed he didn’t go to the restroom at all but over to another area of the restaurant and had sake. Well, I was a little shocked and told him that made me feel like he embarrassed me in front of the restaurant and I would not go back there. So, he recognized my boundary but tried to find a way around it. In the end we had a good conversation, I realize that his action was not about hurting my feelings but about his addiction nagging. He did end up recognizing that it was out of line. When I step back I can view all this as a work in progress though.